Watching Palace away from SE25, Reprise 3, 107 up!

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Reprising this blog once again.

The London Stadium was added to my ‘Palace’ list this January for a visit to WHU, a 3-0 defeat topped off a thoroughly miserable day, only enhanced by meeting a couple of friends for pre-match drinks. Anyone considering visiting as an away fan, I’d strongly recommend trying to get a seat in the lower tier, the upper tier is very distant from the pitch. With a big gap between the upper and lower tiers.

Previously….

26th December 2015 – A visit to the ‘Vitality Stadium’ of Bournemouth FC for a Premier League fixtures, a virtually full house of 11,218 watched a rather drab 0-0. This took my total of Palace away grounds to 106. Although technically the new stadium was built over some of the old Dean Court ground, the pitch was rotated, and four new stands built, as my Bournemouth friend confirmed to me;

Dean Court was completely rebuilt and the pitch turned round 90 degrees in 2001.
All that’s left of the old ground is the bank where the narrow terrace opposite main stand stood and the wall behind. The murals on the wall behind the away stand are where the back of the old away (Brighton Beach) end was.

So, that’s good enough for me, like the New Wembley this counts as a new ground.

September 2015 – Last Sunday, Sept 27th, I visited Watford FC at Vicarage Road for the first ever Premier League fixture between the two clubs, but my 16th visit there as an away fan. This is my most visited away venue since I first ventured there for a Div 3 fixture in the 1974/75 season. Edging out 16 visits to ‘The Valley’ of Charlton Athletic.

watford-mdMay 2015- My 11th visit to Anfield on May 16th and my 496th away from SE25, Stevie Gerrard’s last game at Anfield, and a 3-1 victory for Palace, resulted in a fantastic day out for our travelling 1,883.

Jan 2015 -Last Sunday I added the historic ‘Crabble Athletic Ground’, ‘Crabble’ or if you prefer ‘The Crabble’ of Dover Athletic FC, to bring my current total to 105.

For all Palace ground hoppers this was a fantastic FA cup draw, and the first time we’d been drawn against a non league club in the cup since 1982 when we visited Southbury Road, Enfield FC for a third round tie (won 3-2). This being our first ever competitive game in Dover.

 

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Palace were given a healthy allocation of about 2,500 tickets, and at games kick off, an overall total of 5,645 packed the terraces and stands. For Palace fans more used to large stadiums and fancy prices in the Premier League, £20 to stand up, to shuffle ones feet and have a good old sing song, was too good an offer to turn down, what is it about standing that brings out the terrace wits? The same sort of banter doesn’t seem to translate into seated areas of grounds for some reason.

I expected Conference Premier (Nationally, level 5), Dover to give us a hard competitive game, sadly for them, they appeared to freeze on their big day, and Palace eased to a 4-0 win.

The football ground was opened in 1931, and is known locally as the ‘Upper Ground’, and was built because the lower ground (opened in 1897) also hosted cricket, and the football club had to wait until the cricket season had finished before having access to it. In fact, the lower gound has some history, having hosted over 100 Kent CC cricket matches up until 1976. Palace fans had a good lofty view of that, as our access was by a path that looped around a bank overlooking it.

Half and half football scarf’s are a horrible invention of the Premier greed corporate tourist football fan era, who for instance wants a Palace scarf with the words Chelsea defacing it? I’m sure Millwall fans would say the same about a Palace/Millwall half and half scarf. However, for a NL v Premier League encounter in the FA Cup, they seem entirely appropriate and what, surely, they were invented for? So, I was happy to hand over £10 for my commerative scarf and match day badge. 🙂

Ground 104 with Palace, The Libery Stadium, Swansea City FC.

The Liberty Stadium, Swansea 2/3/14.
The Liberty Stadium, Swansea 2/3/14.

This blog will list by club/ground, and how many times I have watched Crystal Palace FC at that venue, in a competitive game. Entry in () indicates how many games I have watched Palace at that venue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Palace_F.C.

Competitive games entail any league match, FAC (FACup), LC (League Cup), FMC (Full Members Cup/Simod Cup/Zenith Data Systems Cup), AIC (Anglo Italian Cup).

League competitions are abbreviated by the following;

Prem – Premier League or Premiership (from 1992-93), D1 (Before 1992), ND1 (Since 1992, the old D2), Championship, D3 (Palace only played in this in the 70s when it was still the old third tier).

‘Away’ games against Charlton and Wimbledon whilst they were ground sharing at Selhurst Park (SE25), have NOT been included in the list below.

(2) Aldershot – The Recreation Ground – 74-75 (D3), 75-76 (D3).

(11) Arsenal – Highbury Stadium – 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (D1), 89-90 (D1), 90-91 (D1), 91-92 (D1), 92-93 (LC), 92-93 (Prem), 94-95 (Prem), 97-98 (FAC), 97-98 (Prem), 04-05 (Prem).

(1) ArsenalThe Emirates Stadium – 13-14 (Prem).

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(12) Aston Villa – Villa Park – 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (D1), 89-90 (D1), 89-90 (FAC S-F v Liverpool), 90-91 (D1), 91-92 (D1), 92-93 (Prem), 94-95 (Prem), 94-95 (FAC S-F v Man Utd), 94-95 (FAC S-F Rep v Man Utd), 04-05 (Prem), 14-15 (Prem).

(6) Barnsley – Oakwell – 81-82 (D2), 83-84 (D2), 86-87 (D2), 96-97 (ND1), 97-98 (Prem), 99-00 (ND1).

(9) Birmingham City – St Andrews – 80-81 (D1), 86-87 (D2), 88-89 (D2), 91-92 (LC), 93-94 (ND1), 95-96 (ND1), 96-97 (ND1), 99-00(ND1), 04-05 (Prem).

(9) Blackburn Rovers – Ewood Park – 77-78 (D2), 78-79 (D2), 83-84 (D2), 86-87 (D2), 87-88 (D2), 88-89 (D2), 88-89 (Play Off Final 1st Leg), 97-98 (Prem), 00-01 (ND1).

(1) Blackpool – Bloomfield Road – 02-03 (FAC).

(3) Bolton Wanderers – Burnden Park – 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (LC), 96-97 (ND1).

(2) Bolton Wanderers – The Reebok Stadium – 97-98 (Prem), 04-05 (Prem).

(2) Bournemouth (AFC) – Dean Court – 87-88 (D2), 88-89 (D2).

(2) Bournemouth – The Vitality Stadium – 15-16 (Prem), 16-17 (Prem).

(2) Bradford City – The Odsal Stadium – 85-86 (D2), 86-87 (D2).

(2) Bradford City – Valley Parade – 87-88 (D2), 96-97 (ND1).

(1) Brentford – Griffin Park – 77-78 (LC).

(12) Brighton & Hove Albion – The Goldstone Ground – 74-75 (D3), 76-77 (FAC), 77-78 (D2), 78-79 (D2), 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (D1), 83-84 (D2), 84-85 (D2), 85-86 (D2), 86-87 (D2), 88-89 (D2), 90-91 (FMC).

(2) Brighton & Hove Albion – The Amex Stadium – 11-12 (Champ), 12-13 (Champ P-Off S/F 2nd Leg).

(6) Bristol City – Ashton Gate – 78-79 (LC), 79-80 (D1), 88-89 (LC), 93-94 (ND1), 07-08 (Champ Play Off S/F), 10-11 (Champ).

(1) Bristol Rovers – Eastville – 78-79 (D2).

(1) Bristol Rovers – The Memorial Ground – 07-08 (LC).

(2) Burnley – Turf Moor – 82-83 (FAC), 01-02 (ND1)

(1) Bury – Gigg Lane – 86-87 (LC).

(4) Cambridge United – The Abbey Stadium – 78-79 (D2), 81-82 (D2), 82-83 (D2), 89-90 (FAC).

(1) Cardiff – The Millennium Stadium – 03-04 (ND1 Play Off Final v WHU).

(7) Cardiff City – Ninian Park – 78-79 (D2), 79-80 (FAC v Swansea), 81-82 (D2), 84-85 (D2), 05-06 (Champ), 06-07 (Champ), 08-09 (Champ).

(5) Cardiff City -The Cardiff City Stadium – 09-10 (Champ), 11-12 (Champ), 11-12 (LC S/F), 12-13 (Champ), 13-14 (Prem).

(2) Carlisle United – Brunton Park – 83-84 (D2), 85-86 (D2).

(15) Charlton Athletic – The Valley – 77-78 (D2), 78-79 (D2), 81-82 (D2), 82-83 (D2), 83-84 (D2), 85-86 (LC), 85-86 (D2), 93-94 (AIC), 93-94 (LC), 95-96 (ND1), 95-96 (Play Off S/F), 96-97 (ND1), 99-00 (ND1), 04-05 (LC), 07-08 (Champ).

(12) Chelsea – Stamford Bridge – 75-76 (FAC), 75-76 (FAC S/F v Southampton), 81-82 (D2), 82-83 (D2), 83-84 (D2), 88-89 (D2), 89-90 (D1), 91-92 (D1), 92-93 (Prem), 94-95 (Prem), 97-98 (Prem), 04-05 (Prem).

(1) Chesterfield – The Recreation Ground – 76-77 (D3).

(2) Colchester United – Layer Road – 99.00 (LC), 07-08 (Champ).

(8) Coventry City – Highfield Road – 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (D1), 90-91 (D1), 91-92 (D1), 92-93 (Prem), 94-95 (Prem), 97-98 (Prem), 03-04 (ND1),

(1) Coventry City – The Ricoh Arena – 06-07 (Champ).

(4) Crewe Alexandra – Gresty Road – 98-99 (ND1), 00-01 (ND1), 01-02 (ND1), 03-04 (ND1).

(5) Derby County – The Baseball Ground – 79-80 (D1), 83-84 (D2), 86-87 (D2), 90-91 (D1), 95-96 (ND1).

(2) Derby County – Pride Park – 97-98 (Prem), 11-12 (Champ).

(1) Doncaster Rovers – Belle Vue Ground – 81-82 (LC).

(1) Dover Athletic – The Crabble – 14-15 (FACup).

(1) Doncaster Rovers – The Keepmoat Stadium – 08-09 (Champ).

(1) Enfield – Southbury Road – 81-82 (FAC).

(6) Everton – Goodison Park – 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (D1), 89-90 (D1), 90-91 (D1), 93-94 (LC), 97-98 (Prem).

(1) Exeter City – St James Park – 12-13 (LC).

(11) Fulham – Craven Cottage – 73-74 (D2), 77-78 (D2), 78-79 (D2), 82-83 (D2), 83-84 (D2), 84-85 (D2), 85-86 (D2), 99-00 (ND1), 00-01 (ND1), 04-05 (Prem), 13-14 (Prem).

(5) Gillingham – Priestfield Stadium – 75-76 (D3), 00-01 (ND1), 01-02 (ND1), 02-03 (ND1), 03-04 (ND1).

(5) Grimsby Town – Blundell Park – 83-84 (D2), 84-85 (D2), 86-87 (D2), 96-97 (ND1), 01-02 (ND1).

(1) Hartlepool United – Victoria Ground – 91-92 (LC).

(1) Huddersfield Town – Leeds Road – 84-85 (D2).

(2) Huddersfield Town – McAlpine Stadium (Now Galpharm Stadium)  – 95-96 (ND1), 99-00 (ND1).

(3) Hull City – Boothferry Park – 85-86 (D2), 86-87 (D2), 97-98 (LC).

(1)  Hull City – KC Stadium – 07-08 (Champ).

(11) Ipswich Town – Portman Road – 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (D1), 86-87 (D2), 87-88 (D2), 88-89 (D2), 92-93 (Prem), 95-96 (ND1), 96-97 (LC), 96-97 (ND1), 02-03 (ND1), 06-07 (Champ).

(10) Leeds United – Elland Road – 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (D1), 83-84 (D2), 86-87 (D2), 87-88 (D2), 91-92 (ND1), 92-93 (Prem), 96-97 (FAC), 97-98 (Prem), 12-13 (Champ).

(12) Leicester City – Filbert Street – 78-79 (D2), 80-81 (D1), 81-82 (D2), 82-83 (D2), 87-88 (D2), 88-89 (D2), 91-92 (FAC), 93-94 (ND1), 94-95 (Prem), 97-98 (Prem), 99-00 (LC), 00-01 (LC).

(2) Leicester City – The Walkers Stadium – 02-03 (ND1), 14-15 (Prem).

(6) Leyton Orient – Brisbane Road – 77-78 (D2), 78-79 (D2), 81-82 (FAC), 81-82 (D2), 90-91 (LC), 01-02 (LC).

(1) Lincoln City – Sincil Bank – 92-93 (LC).

(12) Liverpool – Anfield – 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (D1), 90-91 (D1), 91-92 (D1), 92-93 (Prem), 92-93 (LC), 94-95 (Prem), 94-95 (LC S/F), 00-01 (LC S/F), 04-05 (Prem), 14-15 (Prem), 16-17 (Prem).

(7) Luton Town – Kenilworth Road – 77-78 (D2), 78-79 (D2), 81-82 (D2), 90-91 (D1), 91-92 (D1), 93-94 (ND1), 06-07 (Champ).

(8) Manchester City – Maine Road – 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (D1), 80-81 (FAC), 83-84 (D2), 88-89 (D2), 91-92 (D1), 96-97 (ND1), 99-00 (ND1).

(1) Manchester City – Eastlands – 04-05 (Prem).

(9) Manchester United – Old Trafford – 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (D1), 85-86 (LC), 87-88 (LC), 90-91 (D1), 94-95 (Prem), 97-98 (Prem), 04-05 (LC), 04-05 (Prem).

(3) Middlesbrough – Ayresome Park – 80-81 (D1), 88-89 (FMC), 93-94 (ND1).

(1) Middlesbrough – The Riverside Stadium – 04-05 (Prem).

(7) Millwall – The Den – 77-78 (D2), 78-79 (D2), 84-85 (FAC), 85-86 (D2), 86-87 (2), 87-88 (D2), 89-90 (D1).

(5) Millwall – The New Den – 93-94 (ND1), 01-02 (ND1), 02-03 (ND1), 03-04 (ND1), 11-12 (Champ).

(4) Newcastle United – St James Park – 87-88 (FAC), 94-95 (Prem), 01-02 (FAC), 04-05 (Prem).

(1) Northampton Town – The County Ground – 84-85 (LC).

(13) Norwich City – Carrow Road – 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (D1), 81-82 (D2), 85-86 (D2), 89-90 (D1), 90-91 (D1), 90-91 (FMC), 94-95 (Prem), 96-97 (ND1), 00-01 (ND1), 02-03 (ND1), 03-04 (ND1), 04-05 (Prem).

(13) Nottm Forest – The City Ground – 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (D1), 86-87 (LC), 88-89 (FMC S-F), 89-90 (LC), 89-90 (D1), 90-91 (FAC), 90-91 (FAC), 91-92 (D1), 91-92 (LC), 92-93 (Prem), 94-95 (FAC), 00-01 (ND1).

(3) Notts County – Meadow Lane – 77-78 (D2), 84-85 (D2), 93-94 (ND1).

(5) Oldham Athletic – Boundary Park – 77-78 (D2), 81-82 (D2), 84-85 (D2), 87-88 (D2), 92-93 (Prem).

(4) Oxford United – The Manor Ground – 84-85 (D2), 88-89 (D2), 93-94 (ND1), 96-97 (ND1).

(2) Peterborough United – London Road – 93-94 (ND1), 11-12 (Champ).

(12) Portsmouth – Fratton Park – 76-77 (D3), 82-83 (LC), 83-84 (D2), 84-85 (D2), 85-86 (D2), 88-89 (D2), 93-94 (ND1), 96-97 (ND1), 99-00 (ND1), 00-01 (ND1), 02-03 (ND1), 04-05 (Prem).

(1) Plymouth Argyle- Home Park – 88-89 (D2).

(1) Port Vale – Vale Park – 96-97 (ND1).

(2) Preston North End – Deepdale – 78-79 (D2), 02-03 (ND1).

(13) Queens Park Rangers – Loftus Road – 81-82 (D2), 81-82 (FAC), 82-83 (D2), 89-90 (D1), 90-91 (D1), 91-92 (FMC), 91-92 (D1), 92-93 (Prem), 94-95 (Prem), 96-97 (ND1), 99-00 (ND1), 00-01 (ND1), 07-08 (Champ).

(2) Reading- Elm Park – 87-88 (D2), 96-97 (ND1).

(9) Reading – Madejski Stadium – 02-03 (ND1), 03-04 (ND1), 05-06 (ND1), 08-09 (Champ), 09-10 (Champ), 10-11 (Champ), 11-12 (Champ), 15-16 (FAC).

(2) Rotherham United – Millmoor – 01-02 (ND1), 02-03 (ND1).

(1) Scunthorpe United – Glanford Park – 10-11 (Champ).

(8) Sheffield Wednesday – Hillsborough – 81-82 (D2), 83-84 (D2), 89-90 (D1), 91-92 (D1), 97-98 (Prem), 01-02 (ND1), 07-08 (Champ), 09-10 (Champ).

(4) Sheffield United – Bramall Lane – 78-79 (D2), 85-86 (D2), 96-97 (ND1), 99-00 (ND1).

(11) Southampton – The Dell – 77-78 (LC), 77-78 (D2), 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (D1), 88-89 (FMC), 90-91 (LC), 91-92 (D1), 92-93 (LC), 92-93 (Prem), 94-95 (Prem), 97-98 (Prem).

(4) Southampton – St Marys – 04-05 (Prem), 07-08 (Prem), 13/14 (Prem), 15-16 (FACup).

(4) Southend United – Roots Hall – 90-91 (LC), 93-94 (ND1), 95-96 (LC), 96-97 (ND1).

(2) Stockport County – Edgeley Park – 98-99 (ND1), 00-01 (ND1).

(6) Stoke City – The Victoria Ground – 78-79 (D2), 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (D1), 85-96 (D2), 88-89 (FAC), 93-94 (ND1).

(2) Stoke City – The Brittania Stadium – 02-03 (ND1), 13-14 (Prem).

(2) Sunderland – Roker Park – 80-81 (D1), 85-86 (D2).

(2) Swansea City – The Vetch Field – 79-80 (FAC), 83-84 (D2).

(2) Swansea City – The Liberty Stadium – 13-14 (Prem), 15-16 (Prem).

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(7) Swindon Town – The County Ground – 87-88 (D2), 88-89 (LC), 88-89 (D2), 88-89 (PlayOff S/F), 96-97 (ND1), 98-99 (ND1), 99-00 (ND1).

(14) Tottenham Hotspur – White Hart Lane – 77-78 (D2), 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (LC), 80-81 (D1), 86-87 (FAC), 89-90 (D1), 90-91 (D1), 91-92 (D1), 94-95 (Prem), 97-98 (Prem), 03-04 (FAC) 04-05 (Prem), 13-14 (Prem). 15-16 (FAC).

(3) Tranmere Rovers – Prenton Park – 93-94 (ND1), 96-97 (ND1), 99-00 (ND1).

(2) Walsall – The Bescot Stadium – 99-00 (ND1), 02-03 (ND1).

(16) Watford – Vicarage Road – 74-75 (D3), 81-82 (D2), 88-89 (D2), 93-94 (ND1), 94-95 (FAC), 95-96 (ND1), 98-99 (ND1), 00-01 (ND1), 01-02 (ND1), 02-03 (ND1), 05-06 (Play Off S/F), 07-08 (FAC), 09-10 (Champ), 10-11 (Champ), 12-13 (Champ), 15-16 (Prem).

(5) Wembley Stadium (Old Wembley)- 89-90 (FAC Final v Man Utd), 89-90 (FAC Final Replay v Man Utd), 90-91 (FMC Final v Everton), 95-96 (ND1 Play Off Final v Leicester), 96-97 (ND1 Play Off Final v Sheff Utd).

(3) Wembley Stadium (New Wembley) – 12-13 (Champ Play Off Final v Watford), 15-16 (FA Cup S/F v Watford), 16-17 (FAC Final v Man United).

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(9) West Bromwich Albion – The Hawthorns – 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (D1), 88-89 (D2), 93-94 (ND1), 95-96 (ND1), 96-97 (ND1), 99-00 (ND1), 01-02 (ND1), 04-05 (Prem).

(7) West Ham United – Upton Park – 78-79 (D2), 83-84 (FAC), 91-92 (D1), 94-95 (Prem), 97-98 (Prem-Abndnd 65 mins), 97-98 (Prem), 03-04 (ND1).

(1) West Ham United The London Stadium – 16/17 (Prem).

(4) Wimbledon – Plough Lane – 84-85 (D2), 85-86 (D2), 89-90 (D1), 90-91 (D1).

(9) Wolverhampton Wanderers – Molineux – 79-80 (D1), 80-81 (D1), 82-83 (D2), 93-94 (ND1), 94-95 (FAC), 95-96 (ND1), 96-97 (ND1), 96-97 (Play Off S/F), 05-06 (Champ).

(2) Wrexham – The Racecourse Ground – 78-79 (D2), 81-82 (D2).

(1) Yeovil Town – Huish Park – 10-11 (LC).

A total of 507 competitive away games (Up to and including April 23rd 2017).

I have seen a Palace competitive away game at 69 of the ‘current’ in use other 91 grounds (up to end of season 2016-17).

I have also seen Palace at 28 ex league club grounds, not now in use, either built over, or not used for football – (Last, the old White Hart Lane).

I have also seen Palace at 11 grounds currently being used in Non League.

I have seen Palace at 1 Non League ground no longer in use (Enfield/Soutbury Road).

I have seen Palace at 3 National Stadiums (The Old Wembley, The New Wembley and The Millennuim Stadium).

So I have seen Palace at a total of 107 different grounds in competitive games (Up to May 2017).

I need the following clubs ‘current’ grounds with Palace away to add to my total of 69> And these will be the clubs I will keeping an eye out for in away cup draws in the LC and FAC 🙂

2017-18 Season, I now need 22 of the ‘current’ grounds ‘with’ Palace…..to complete the 92 ‘with’ Palace.

The Premier League (0) > Complete, will need Spurs as a home club v Palace at Wembley in 17/18. Although will not count as a new venue.

The Championship (1) >  Burton Albion.

League One (10) > Fleetwood Town, MK Dons, Northampton Town, Oxford United, Rochdale, Rotherham United, Scunthorpe United, Shrewsbury Town, Wigan Athletic, AFC Wimbledon.

League Two (11) > Accrington Stanley, Barnet, Cheltenham, Chesterfield, Colchester United, Crawley Town, Forest Green Rovers, Morecambe, Newport County, Stevenage, Wycombe Wanderers.

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